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1985 NPC Nationals winner Phil Williams is the guest on the Bodybuilding Legends Podcast to talk about a variety of topics. Phil talks about the training partners he had when he trained at Gold’s Gym in the 1980’s including Chris Dickerson, Samir Bannout, Mike Christian and the Barbarian Brothers. Phil also talks about how he used to prepare for a contest and how contest prep has changed among the bodybuilders today. At the end of the podcast, host John Hansen reads an article from the March, 1979 issue of IronMan Magazine about how the legendary Serge Nubret used to train and diet for competitions.